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Well, I love my country in a non attached type of way. However, if Kayden wants to start a true democratic country and needs supporters count me in. I'll bring the chickens and corn.
Democracy (Leonard Cohen)
It's coming through a hole in the air. From those nights in
tiananmen Square.
It's coming from the feel that this ain't exactly real, or it's real, but it ain't exactly there.
From the wars against disorder, from the sirens night and day, from the fires of the homeless, from the ashes of the gay: Democracy is coming to the U.S.A.
It's coming through a crack in the wall; on a visionary flood of alcohol; from the staggering account of the Sermon on the Mount which I don't pretend to understand at all.
It's coming from the silence on the dock of the bay, from the brave, the bold, the battered heart of Chevrolet: Democracy is coming to the U.S.A.
It's coming from the sorrow in the street, the holy places where the races meet; from the homicidal bitchin' that goes down in every kitchen to determine who will serve and who will eat. From the walls of disappointment where the women kneel to pray for the grace of God in the desert here and the desert far away: Democracy is coming to the U.S.A.
It's coming to America first, the cradle of the best and of the worst. It's here they got the range and the machinery for change and it's here they got the spiritual thirst. It's here the family's broken and it's here the lonely say that the heart has got to open in a fundamental way: Deomcracy is coming to the U.S.A.
It's coming from the children and the men, O baby, we'll be making love again. We'll be gong down so deep the river's going to weep, and the mountain's going to shout Amen! It's coming like the tidal flood beneath the lunar sway, imperial, mysterious, in amorous array: Democracy is coming to the U.S.A.
Sail on, sail on O mighty Ship of State! To the shores of need past the reefs of greed through the squalls of hate. Sail on, sail on, sail on, sail on.
I'm sentimental, if you know what I mean. I love the country but I can't stand the scene. And I'm neither left or right I'm just staying home tonight, getting lost in that hopeless little screen. But I'm stubborn as those garbage bags that time cannot decay, I'm junk but I'm still holding up this little wild bouquet: Democracy is coming to the U.S.A.
(Comment: Is Leonard Cohen dreaming?)
I think you might like this piece from Reason magazine:
http://reason.com/archives/2009/06/08/20000-nations-above-the-sea
It's all about individuals who are seeking to set up these floating islands in international waters so they can self-govern. In some ways, it's pretty far-fetched, but it brings up some fairly cool thinking of what it means to be a nation. Hope you like.
Count me in; I'll gladly assume the role as an imported member of your tribe.
I figured you for more of a medievil times kind of girl...with a silly crown on your head...while eating a corndog and riding a horse? heheh! ;)
Huh? I figured you for more of a medievil times kind of girl...with a silly crown on your head...while eating a cookie and riding a horse...and priss kinda strolling along with your underwears in her mouth? heheh! ;)
Yeah, yeah...
You seem to start your mid-life crisis a little early, young Kayden. From the periphery or from the distance of time previous societies can seem very idyllic. Plato's Athens is often held up as the (first) true democracy. Of course when Plato was speaking of democracy he meant for him and similarly well-educated and well-positioned men - not the peasants and women thank you very much.
Past times are attractive because from our perspective they seem simpler and thus truer. No IRS, no deadlines, no Wall Street, no internet and the 24-hour life that brings. BUt life in those teepees without central heating and air, no hot showers and antibiotics, and no WholeFoods or Safeways or Wegmans to bring daily food to the family table...
For all its faults, I like the times I live in now.
John Lennon had a similar idea with Imagine. I would never scoff at your dream, Kayden, but you do realize that a stateless society offers no guarantee of harmonious relationships with your fellow citizens (no laws; no law enforcement), no mechanism for protection from exterior hostiles and no infrastructure for distribution of resources. And the comfort level is definitely minimal.
The other advantages might make it worthwhile, I just wanted to point out some of the potential downside. That being said, say the word and I'm right there for you on the island.
Lets just go to your island on the weekends honey ;)
You know, I enjoyed this post, because it made me think. These stateless societies often seemed to come up way short on the human rights bit, because too much attention to that kinda of thing was considered enough to put the survival of the entire group in jeopardy. The chieftain ran the show, and whatever he (because they were all he's back then) said was law. Disagreement would get you thrown out of the club or killed, which probably wasn't too pleasant. I guess the bottom line is that no matter what time period we live in, we've always had to sacrifice something to get the things we want.
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